Broms problem

[*Micke*]

Efter jag har haft bort alla bromsok på bilen så är bromsen svampig.

Har luftat på flera olika vis. med tryck uppifrån. sugit nere ifrån. pumpat som vanligt.

Även varit in på Ford och kört en abs luftning med datorn. utan resultat.. joo 2500kr fattigare då .

Bromspedalen känns bra tillsman startar motorn. trycket blir bättre om man pumpar ett par ggr. men pedalen sjunker när man håller trycket

men inte ända ner till golvet.

Har bromsat på grus så abs systen jobbat och luftat efter det men icke..

Inga ok är fel monterade. nya skivor + belägg. bilen gått 1100 mil.

Någon som har någon var det kan vara ! själv har jag slut på ér.

//Micke.

[grufman]

SECTION 206-00: Brake System — General Information

2005 Mustang Workshop Manual

GENERAL PROCEDURES

Procedure revision date: 05/16/2006

Component Bleeding Printable View (234 KB)

Special Tool(s)

Worldwide Diagnostic System (WDS)

Vehicle Communication Module (VCM) with appropriate adapters, or equivalent diagnostic tool

Adapter for Adjuster, Rear Brake Caliper Piston

206-026 (T87P-2588-A)

Material

Item Specification

High Performance DOT 3 Motor Vehicle Brake Fluid

PM-1 (Canada CPM-1) ESA-M6C25-A

Master Cylinder

WARNING: Use of any brake fluid other than approved DOT 3 will cause permanent damage to brake components and will render the brakes inoperative. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

WARNING: Carefully read cautionary information on product label. For EMERGENCY MEDICAL INFORMATION seek medical advice. In the USA or Canada on Ford/Motorcraft products call: 1-800-959-3673. For additional information, consult the product Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) if available. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

CAUTION: Do not allow the brake master cylinder reservoir to run dry during the bleeding operation. Keep the brake master cylinder reservoir filled with the specified brake fluid. Never reuse the brake fluid that has been drained from the hydraulic system.

CAUTION: Brake fluid is harmful to painted and plastic surfaces. If brake fluid is spilled onto a painted or plastic surface, immediately wash it with water.

NOTE: When any part of the hydraulic system is disconnected for repair or installation of new components, air can enter the system and cause spongy brake pedal action. This requires bleeding of the hydraulic system after it is correctly connected. The hydraulic system can be bled manually or with pressure bleeding equipment.

NOTE: When a new brake master cylinder is installed or the system is emptied, or partially emptied, it should be primed to prevent air from entering the system.

For in-vehicle priming, disconnect the brake lines.

For bench priming, mount the brake master cylinder in a vise.

Install short brake tubes onto the primary and secondary ports with the ends submerged in the brake master cylinder reservoir.

Fill the brake master cylinder reservoir with specified motor vehicle brake fluid.

Have an assistant pump the brake pedal, or slowly press the primary piston until clear fluid flows from the brake tubes, without air bubbles.

If the brake master cylinder has been primed at the bench, install it in the vehicle. For additional information, refer to Section 206-06.

Remove the short brake tubes, and install the master cylinder brake tubes.

Tighten to 17 Nm (13 lb-ft).

Bleed each brake tube at the brake master cylinder as follows:

Have an assistant pump the brake pedal, and then hold firm pressure on the brake pedal.

Loosen the rear-most brake tube fittings until a stream of brake fluid comes out. While the assistant maintains pressure on the brake pedal, tighten the brake tube fitting.

Repeat this operation until clear, bubble-free fluid comes out.

Refill the brake master cylinder reservoir as necessary. Repeat the bleeding operation at the front brake tube.

Rear Brake Caliper

WARNING: Use of any other than approved DOT 3 motor vehicle brake fluid will cause permanent damage to brake components and will render the brakes inoperative. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

WARNING: Carefully read cautionary information on product label. For EMERGENCY MEDICAL INFORMATION seek medical advice. In the USA or Canada on Ford/Motorcraft products call: 1-800-959-3673. For additional information, consult the product Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) if available. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

CAUTION: Brake fluid is harmful to painted and plastic surfaces. If brake fluid is spilled onto a painted or plastic surface, immediately wash it with water.

CAUTION: Do not allow the brake master cylinder reservoir to run dry during the bleeding operation. Keep the brake master cylinder reservoir filled with the DOT 3 motor vehicle brake fluid. Never reuse the brake fluid that has been drained from the hydraulic system.

NOTE: When any part of the hydraulic system is disconnected for repair or installation of new components, air can get into the system and cause spongy brake pedal action. This requires bleeding of the hydraulic system after it is correctly connected. The hydraulic system can be bled manually or with pressure bleeding equipment.

NOTE: Due to the complexity of the fluid path within the rear integral parking brake calipers, it may be necessary to follow this procedure when new calipers are installed.

NOTE: This procedure is necessary only when installing a new rear brake caliper. To bleed the brake system, refer to Brake System Bleeding in this section.

With the vehicle in NEUTRAL, position it on a hoist. For additional information, refer to Section 100-02.

Remove the 2 brake caliper bolts and position the brake caliper aside.

Remove the outer brake pad.

NOTE: Place a shop towel between the caliper and the brake disc.

Install the brake caliper using the 2 brake caliper bolts.

Tighten to 33 Nm (24 lb-ft).

Slowly apply the brake pedal to extend the brake caliper piston out.

Remove the 2 brake caliper bolts and position the brake caliper aside.

Bleed the brake caliper.

Remove the bleeder screw cap and place a box end wrench on the brake caliper bleeder screw. Attach a rubber drain tube to the brake caliper bleeder screw and submerge the free end of the tube in a container partially filled with clean brake fluid.

Loosen the brake caliper bleeder screw.

Using the special tool, fully retract the brake caliper piston and tighten the bleeder screw.

Tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

Refill the brake master cylinder reservoir as necessary.

Repeat steps 5 through 9 until clear, bubble free fluid comes out.

Install the bleeder screw cap.

Remove the 2 brake caliper bolts and the shop towel.

Install the outer brake pad.

Position the brake caliper and install the 2 brake caliper bolts.

Tighten to 33 Nm (24 lb-ft).

Hydraulic Control Unit (HCU)

NOTE: This procedure is only required when a new HCU is installed.

NOTE: When any part of the hydraulic system has been disconnected for repair or new installation, air may get into the system and cause spongy brake pedal action. This requires bleeding of the hydraulic system after it has been correctly connected. The hydraulic system can be gravity bled, manually bled, or bled with pressure bleeding equipment.

Connect the diagnostic tool and follow the anti-lock brake system (ABS) bleed instructions.

Use the pressure or manual bleed procedure(s) to bleed the system. Begin at the RH rear brake caliper.

[grufman]

SECTION 206-00: Brake System — General Information

2005 Mustang Workshop Manual

GENERAL PROCEDURES

Procedure revision date: 05/16/2006

Brake System Bleeding Printable View (156 KB)

Special Tool(s)

Worldwide Diagnostic System (WDS)

Vehicle Communication Module (VCM) with appropriate adapters, or equivalent diagnostic tool

Material

Item Specification

High Performance DOT 3 Motor Vehicle Brake Fluid

PM-1 (Canada CPM-1) ESA-M6C25-A or WSS-M6C62-A

Manual

WARNING: Use of any other than approved DOT 3 motor vehicle brake fluid will cause permanent damage to brake components and will render the brakes inoperative. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

WARNING: Carefully read cautionary information on product label. For EMERGENCY MEDICAL INFORMATION seek medical advice. In the USA or Canada on Ford/Motorcraft products call: 1-800-959-3673. For additional information, consult the product Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) if available. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

CAUTION: Brake fluid is harmful to painted and plastic surfaces. If brake fluid is spilled onto a painted or plastic surface, immediately wash it with water.

CAUTION: Do not allow the brake master cylinder reservoir to run dry during the bleeding operation. Keep the brake master cylinder reservoir filled with the specified brake fluid. Never reuse the brake fluid that has been drained from the hydraulic system.

CAUTION: After the installation of a hydraulic control unit replacement, conduct the Brake System Pressure Bleeding procedure before the diagnostic tool based bleed procedure. A diagnostic tool based bleed procedure is then required to completely bleed the system. Follow the instructions from the diagnostic tool.

NOTE: If the hydraulic control unit (HCU), or any component upstream of the HCU are installed new, carry out the Brake System Pressure Bleeding procedure first without the diagnostic tool, followed by the Brake System Bleed procedure using the diagnostic tool. The Component Bleeding — Rear Brake Caliper procedure is not required as new rear calipers were not installed.

NOTE: When any part of the hydraulic system is disconnected for repair or installation of new components, air can get into the system and cause spongy brake pedal action. This requires bleeding of the hydraulic system after it is correctly connected. The hydraulic system can be bled manually or with pressure bleeding equipment.

Connect the diagnostic tool cable adapter into the vehicle data link connector (DLC) under the dash and follow the diagnostic tool instructions.

Clean all the dirt from the area, remove the brake master cylinder reservoir cap and fill the brake master cylinder reservoir with the specified brake fluid.

Remove the RH rear bleeder cap and place a box end wrench on the RH rear bleeder screw. Attach a rubber drain tube to the RH rear bleeder screw and submerge the free end of the tube in a container partially filled with clean brake fluid.

Have an assistant hold firm pressure on the brake pedal.

Loosen the RH rear bleeder screw until a stream of brake fluid comes out. While the assistant maintains pressure on the brake pedal, tighten the RH rear bleeder screw.

Repeat until clear, bubble-free fluid comes out.

Refill the brake master cylinder reservoir as necessary.

Tighten the RH rear brake caliper bleeder screw and install the bleeder cap.

Tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

Repeat Steps 3, 4, 5 and 6 for the LH rear brake caliper bleeder screw.

Remove the RH front bleeder cap and place a box end wrench on the RH front brake caliper bleeder screw. Attach a rubber drain tube to the RH front brake caliper bleeder screw and submerge the free end of the tube in a container partially filled with clean brake fluid.

Have an assistant hold firm pressure on the brake pedal.

Loosen the RH front brake caliper bleeder screw until a stream of brake fluid comes out. While the assistant maintains pressure on the brake pedal, tighten the RH front brake caliper bleeder screw.

Repeat until clear, bubble-free fluid comes out.

Refill the brake master cylinder reservoir as necessary.

Tighten the RH front brake caliper bleeder screw and install the bleeder cap.

Tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

Repeat Steps 8, 9, 10 and 11 for the LH front brake caliper bleeder screw.

Pressure

WARNING: Use of any other than approved DOT 3 motor vehicle brake fluid will cause permanent damage to brake components and will render the brakes inoperative. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

WARNING: Carefully read cautionary information on product label. For EMERGENCY MEDICAL INFORMATION seek medical advice. In the USA or Canada on Ford/Motorcraft products call: 1-800-959-3673. For additional information, consult the product Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) if available. Failure to follow these instructions may result in personal injury.

CAUTION: Brake fluid is harmful to painted and plastic surfaces. If brake fluid is spilled onto a painted or plastic surface, immediately wash it with water.

CAUTION: Do not allow the brake master cylinder reservoir to run dry during the bleeding operation. Keep the brake master cylinder reservoir filled with the specified brake fluid. Never reuse the brake fluid that has been drained from the hydraulic system.

CAUTION: After the installation of a hydraulic control unit replacement, conduct the Brake System Pressure Bleeding procedure before the diagnostic tool based bleed procedure. A diagnostic tool based bleed procedure is then required to completely bleed the system. Follow the instructions from the diagnostic tool.

NOTE: If the hydraulic control unit (HCU), or any component upstream of the HCU are installed new, carry out the Brake System Pressure Bleeding procedure first without the diagnostic tool, followed by the Brake System Bleed procedure using the diagnostic tool. The Component Bleeding — Rear Brake Caliper procedure is not required as new rear calipers were not installed.

NOTE: When any part of the hydraulic system is disconnected for repair or installation of new components, air can get into the system and cause spongy brake pedal action. This requires bleeding of the hydraulic system after it is correctly connected. The hydraulic system can be bled manually or with pressure bleeding equipment.

Clean all the dirt from the area and remove the brake master cylinder filler cap. Fill the brake master cylinder reservoir with the specified brake fluid.

NOTE: Master cylinder pressure bleeder adapter tools are available from various manufacturers of pressure bleeding equipment. Follow the instructions of the manufacturer when installing the adapter.

Install the bleeder adapter to the brake master cylinder reservoir and attach the bleeder tank hose to the fitting on the adapter.

NOTE: Bleed the longest line first. Make sure the bleeder tank contains enough specified brake fluid to complete the bleeding operation.

Remove the RH rear bleeder cap and place a box end wrench on the RH rear bleeder screw. Attach a rubber drain tube to the RH rear bleeder screw and submerge the free end of the tube in a container partially filled with clean brake fluid.

Open the valve on the bleeder tank.

Loosen the RH rear brake caliper bleeder screw. Leave open until clear, bubble-free brake fluid flows, then tighten the RH rear brake caliper bleeder screw and remove the rubber hose and install the RH rear bleeder cap.

To install, tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in)

Continue bleeding the system, going in order from the LH rear brake caliper bleeder screw to the RH front disc brake caliper bleeder screw ending with the LH front brake caliper bleeder screw.

Close the bleeder tank valve. Remove the tank hose from the adapter, and remove the adapter.

[*Micke*]

Har dom på Ford gjort fel tror du ? så det fortf. är luft i abs modulen...

//M

[grufman]

Har dom på Ford gjort fel tror du ? så det fortf. är luft i abs modulen...

//M

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kanske. eller så är inte bakoken korrekt luftade som det står i texten.

[*Micke*]

Så nu har jag luftat bakoken som det står.

enda skillnaden är jag fått en blåsa i handen av allt kolv skruvande.

Men ingen skillnad...får hjärn släpp

//M

[*Micke*]

Om man luftar efter man kört...

kommer det alltid lite luft ur vänstar fram ...

//Micke.

[fredrik 2121]

har du kanske förväxlat bromsokens sida

så du har luftnippeln åt fel håll?

[*Micke*]

Dom sitter rätt.

Sätter man dom fel hammnar luft nippeln neråt.

Tror att det forf. är luft i abs modulen. tydligen rätt svår att få ur... om man inte har rätt grejor och kunskapen.

//Micke

[Gresse]

Svetsa fast en vingmutter på avluftn.nippeln vä.fram så du lätt kommer åt och fortsätt lufta hela sommaren.

Skoja bara.

Ibland kan luft vara ett h-vete att få ur. Lycka till.

Gresse

[*Micke*]

Har en bättre

Jag åker förbi och tutar hemma hos dig, så kan du springa ut och lufta .

//Micke.